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All Things Cage: Laura Kuhn and Julie Lazar

Jun 19, 2021: 7pm - 8pm
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Hosted by Laura Kuhn, Executive Director of the John Cage Trust.

Laura Kuhn talks with curator Julie Lazar, best known in Cage circles for her collaborative work with John Cage on his composition for museum, “Rolywholyover   A Circus,” composed on a commission from the Museum of Contemporary Art, Los Angeles, where Lazar was a founding curator and where it was first seen in 1993, one year after Cage’s death. Last week’s program focused on Cage’s interest in the “circus” as a compositional strategy, which expressed itself in works that cross some 25 years. We listened to a lengthy excerpt from his first Musicircus (1968), after which Kuhn then spoke about the concept of the circus as applied to “Rolywholyover,” closing with Klaus Schöning’s beautiful “just to rolywholyover: in memoriam john cage,” produced for MoCA’s The Territory of Art radio series.

Tonight, Laura Kuhn and Julie Lazar speak a bit more about “Rolywholyover   A Circus,” now nearly 30 years after its creation, as well as about the lingering influence that Cage has had on their respective lives.

All Things Cage is a weekly program featuring conversations between Laura Kuhn, Director of the John Cage Trust, and Cage experts and enthusiasts from around the world. If you’d like to propose a guest or a topic for a future program, write directly to Laura at lkuhn@johncage.org. She’d love to hear from you.

The late Pulitzer Prize-winning biographer Kenneth Silverman once described his Begin Again: A Biography of John Cage (Knopf, 2012) as the hardest book he’d ever written. This was because, as he put it, pick up any rock and there’s John Cage! Indeed, Cage was not only a world-renowned composer, numbering among his compositions the still notoriously tacet 4’33”, but a ground-breaking poet, a philosopher, a chess master who studied with Marcel Duchamp, a macrobiotic chef, a devotee of Zen Buddhism, a prolific visual artist, and an avid and pioneering mycologist. He was also life partner to the celebrated American choreographer, Merce Cunningham, for nearly half a century, and thus well known in the world of modern dance.

No wonder, then, that nearly everyone who encounters the man or his life’s work has something interesting to say about John Cage!

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