Host Robert Knight, with part two of look at NSA surveillance. "In today's program we hear Part Two of our exploration of National Security Agency (NSA) interception, deception, and disruption of virtually all electronic communications on the planet Earth. During part One, in our previous broadcast, we heard NSA watchdogs Glenn Greenwald, Julian Assange, Bruce Schneier, and others, speaking to the growing social and technical resistance movements against automated privacy violations. In this program, we hear: Attorney Kurt Opsahl of the Electronic Frontier Foundation, addresing the recently concluded Chaos Communications Conference in Hamburg, about the legislative history and ongoing operations of the US surveillance state, and populist remedies thereto; and radical journalist Jacob Applebaum describing the bizarre intrusion techniques of the NSA's 'Tailored Access Operations' (TAO) hacking unit, and his and others' roles in new revelations from Der Spiegel on NSA's mail, email and phone interception, radar blasts, Trojan horses and hardware tricks, as well as potential countermeasures." From Pacifica Radio.