When a mass shooting erupts in our town or city, two common and reasonable responses are to re-examine gun laws and mental health services. But if mass shootings were solely about the shooter's mental health, why are they primarily committed by men? In this episode of Making Contact we revisit the tragedy in Isla Vista and one survivor who's using his experience as a way to talk about toxic masculinity, mass shootings, and interpersonal violence. Produced by National Radio Project.