The FBI v. Apple, a dangerous new step in government repression. What is the FBI trying to force Apple to do, and why? We talk with Shahid Buttar, Director of Grassroots Advocacy at the Electronic Frontiers Foundation (EFF) and David Greene, Senior Staff Attorney and Civil Liberties Director at EFF, who has just filed an amicus brief in the Apple v. FBI case, on behalf of 46 technology experts. Hosted and produced by Michael Slate.