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Race Talks: RACE TALKS®: Mighty DNA-Ending 400 Years of Hidden Grief with Kimberly Erwin & Katurah Bryant, LMFT & Garrett Roche (Audio)
This month on Race Talks®, Host and Executive Producer Kimberly Y. Erwin invites listeners into a powerful conversation on generational trauma, emotional memory, and what it means to carry history inside the body.
What if the stress you’re managing did not start with you?
Kimberly—educator, author, intercultural communication expert—grounds the episode in a sweeping historical frame, moving from chattel slavery and colonial systems through Jim Crow, segregation, redlining, and ongoing inequities. From there, she asks a deeper question: what does it mean when history does not remain in the past, but lives in the present?
We built through it all. We survived through it all. But survival does not process pain.
Joining the conversation is Katurah A. Bryant, LMFT, RN, creator of the ZOLA Method, a seven-session wellness experience designed to support healing from trauma, loss, and systemic grief. Katurah introduces the concept of “emotional memory”—the understanding that trauma is not only psychological, but embodied, carried in the body across generations, shaping identity, stress response, and lived experience. She is humble, sharing here her memories of her beloveds on whose shoulders she stands carrying forward a legacy of healing, wisdom, and care.
Midway through the episode, the conversation turns toward a recent and painful moment involving a young Black grade schooler who was handcuffed after being labeled “unruly.” The dialogue pauses at a different question—one that cuts beneath the surface:
What did she need in that moment? Understanding. A hug. Not handcuffs.
That moment becomes a wider reflection on how we interpret distress, how systems respond to children, and what it means to truly see someone. This is not a conversation about survival alone. This is a conversation about what survival has been carrying—and what must finally be released.
Also joining is Garret Roche, host of The Roche Solid Truth podcast and Race Talks® Positivity Producer, who lends his voice to the topic from a varied viewpoint.
Interwoven throughout is inspiration from Des’ree’s “I Ain’t Moving,” reinforcing themes of dignity, self-worth, and the discipline of self-love in a world that often demands its suppression.
CONNECT!
Kimberly Y. Erwin | Founder of InterCultural Connect, LLC, iCAMP, and OneUniversal Media | www.kimberlyerwin.me
Katurah A. Bryant, LMFT, RN | Creator of the ZOLA Method | https://thezolaexperience.org
Garret Roche | Host of The Roche Solid Truth podcast | https://www.therochesolidtruth.com
Listen every 3rd Friday at 7PM EST on WGXC-90.7FM.
Stream live and access archives at wavefarm.org
We heal. We grow. WeriSE. TOGETHER (period) ~ Kimberly Y. Erwin

